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		<title>By: dorian baroni</title>
		<link>http://www.joegerstandt.com/2012/06/i-am-over-the-business-case-conversation/#comment-4024</link>
		<dc:creator>dorian baroni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 21:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finally! I love everything about your opinion piece - its spirit, its clarity, its sense of possibility. It is high time that leaders and HR professionals get clear on the overarching dynamics of something that simply should be part of any manager&#039;s awareness and skillset i.e. the ability to manage actual human beings, with all their uniquenesses, gifts, weaknesses, etc rather than the myth of a human being as a &#039;resource&#039; or &#039;capital&#039; or worse. 

And I speak from experience and from having colluded first unwittingly and then wittingly with the old model when I was in my 20s and 30s: I worked early on within an industry where &#039;eating one&#039;s young&#039; was considered an unofficial but appreciated leadership style; I went for an MBA from a top business school where (like all other top business schools) more focus is spent on spreadsheet/financial dynamics than on the workforce/leadership dynamics that produce (or do not produce) the output that the spreadsheets/financials try to optimize; I visited HR for a significant phase of my career and always felt like the function was stuck in the 19th century and yet had so much potential to make a difference if it just could shed outdated mental models; and through it all, I have been intrigued (and dismayed) by how many organizations manage to survive despite doing everything possible to kill the unique spirit of their employees.

When I hit my 40s, I woke up from the &#039;be successful&#039;, &#039;get ahead&#039;, &#039;fit in&#039; self-imposed dream I was living. I first started to try to make a difference from the inside. Then, decided to go freelance. I now work as an external advisor/consultant/coach. I have learned to not fear the lack of income and it has helped me have the spine to turn down assignments where the client starts out not wanting to embrace the obvious. I just say no. I don&#039;t want to have to convince anyone in charge of the most basic, the most humane, the most obvious. The obvious being for me being that organzations hold the potential, at their best and most producively profitable, to be unique works of social cooperation, empathy and creativity; places of connection with others, and a sense of accomplishment. 

Any other way of organizing, leading, or managing is a) unimaginative and boring, and more importantly b) as harsh an exploitation of human beings and the human spirit as we nowadays judge indentured servitude to have been in middle ages or during the industrial revolution pre-reform movements. Any other way of organizing, leading or managing will survive for a time (and perhaps longer than any of us might wish), but eventually it will the way of those other forms of short sighted exploitation of the labor and creativity of another. And I really don&#039;t want to be part of condoning or supporting that!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally! I love everything about your opinion piece &#8211; its spirit, its clarity, its sense of possibility. It is high time that leaders and HR professionals get clear on the overarching dynamics of something that simply should be part of any manager&#8217;s awareness and skillset i.e. the ability to manage actual human beings, with all their uniquenesses, gifts, weaknesses, etc rather than the myth of a human being as a &#8216;resource&#8217; or &#8216;capital&#8217; or worse. </p>
<p>And I speak from experience and from having colluded first unwittingly and then wittingly with the old model when I was in my 20s and 30s: I worked early on within an industry where &#8216;eating one&#8217;s young&#8217; was considered an unofficial but appreciated leadership style; I went for an MBA from a top business school where (like all other top business schools) more focus is spent on spreadsheet/financial dynamics than on the workforce/leadership dynamics that produce (or do not produce) the output that the spreadsheets/financials try to optimize; I visited HR for a significant phase of my career and always felt like the function was stuck in the 19th century and yet had so much potential to make a difference if it just could shed outdated mental models; and through it all, I have been intrigued (and dismayed) by how many organizations manage to survive despite doing everything possible to kill the unique spirit of their employees.</p>
<p>When I hit my 40s, I woke up from the &#8216;be successful&#8217;, &#8216;get ahead&#8217;, &#8216;fit in&#8217; self-imposed dream I was living. I first started to try to make a difference from the inside. Then, decided to go freelance. I now work as an external advisor/consultant/coach. I have learned to not fear the lack of income and it has helped me have the spine to turn down assignments where the client starts out not wanting to embrace the obvious. I just say no. I don&#8217;t want to have to convince anyone in charge of the most basic, the most humane, the most obvious. The obvious being for me being that organzations hold the potential, at their best and most producively profitable, to be unique works of social cooperation, empathy and creativity; places of connection with others, and a sense of accomplishment. </p>
<p>Any other way of organizing, leading, or managing is a) unimaginative and boring, and more importantly b) as harsh an exploitation of human beings and the human spirit as we nowadays judge indentured servitude to have been in middle ages or during the industrial revolution pre-reform movements. Any other way of organizing, leading or managing will survive for a time (and perhaps longer than any of us might wish), but eventually it will the way of those other forms of short sighted exploitation of the labor and creativity of another. And I really don&#8217;t want to be part of condoning or supporting that!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Gerstandt</title>
		<link>http://www.joegerstandt.com/2012/06/i-am-over-the-business-case-conversation/#comment-3399</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Gerstandt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Gareth...you talking about HR Evolution? Yes I will be there, would love to catch up. Sorry for slow response.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Gareth&#8230;you talking about HR Evolution? Yes I will be there, would love to catch up. Sorry for slow response.</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m hosting, you&#8217;re posting&#8230; &#171; Inside My Head&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.joegerstandt.com/2012/06/i-am-over-the-business-case-conversation/#comment-3397</link>
		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m hosting, you&#8217;re posting&#8230; &#171; Inside My Head&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the status quo &#8211; we become complacent. Joe Gerstandt also touches on this in one of his recent posts: &#8220;Most organisations are in the process of dying, they just cant see it because they [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the status quo &#8211; we become complacent. Joe Gerstandt also touches on this in one of his recent posts: &#8220;Most organisations are in the process of dying, they just cant see it because they [...]</p>
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		<title>By: joe gerstandt &#187; Inclusion is not the goal.</title>
		<link>http://www.joegerstandt.com/2012/06/i-am-over-the-business-case-conversation/#comment-3319</link>
		<dc:creator>joe gerstandt &#187; Inclusion is not the goal.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] got a few e-mails after my last post. Some of my peers feel that it is lazy and/or inappropriate and/or cowardly for me to say I am just [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] got a few e-mails after my last post. Some of my peers feel that it is lazy and/or inappropriate and/or cowardly for me to say I am just [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.joegerstandt.com/2012/06/i-am-over-the-business-case-conversation/#comment-3301</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Joe. You nailed it right there. As Broc points out, the sentence:

“Most organizations are in the process of dying, they just can’t see it because they generated a profit yesterday.”

sums up business approach to people in general, not just D&amp;I. It is essentially what Jim Collins has been saying for a long time with his assertion that Good is the enemy of Great.

Im with you - lets turn this into a majority with the ones who are on the bus - eventually we will outnumber the ones who are not ;)

Are you going to be at HRE this year? Would be great to catch up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe. You nailed it right there. As Broc points out, the sentence:</p>
<p>“Most organizations are in the process of dying, they just can’t see it because they generated a profit yesterday.”</p>
<p>sums up business approach to people in general, not just D&amp;I. It is essentially what Jim Collins has been saying for a long time with his assertion that Good is the enemy of Great.</p>
<p>Im with you &#8211; lets turn this into a majority with the ones who are on the bus &#8211; eventually we will outnumber the ones who are not <img src='http://www.joegerstandt.com/cms/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Are you going to be at HRE this year? Would be great to catch up.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://www.joegerstandt.com/2012/06/i-am-over-the-business-case-conversation/#comment-3294</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 00:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you had me at the headline. I&#039;ve got to work on my headline writing skills!

I feel the same way. Can&#039;t tell if it&#039;s major personal growth or just a ridiculous amount of sassiness that comes with hitting my 40s. So much energy to be found in working with people excited to learn, grow, change together. In creating more freedom together to be our whole, more authentic selves at work. In creating ever deepening relationships as we talk through what we value and believe and love and weave those things together.

I work for communities now, not organizations. Thay&#039;re making me sassier by the day. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you had me at the headline. I&#8217;ve got to work on my headline writing skills!</p>
<p>I feel the same way. Can&#8217;t tell if it&#8217;s major personal growth or just a ridiculous amount of sassiness that comes with hitting my 40s. So much energy to be found in working with people excited to learn, grow, change together. In creating more freedom together to be our whole, more authentic selves at work. In creating ever deepening relationships as we talk through what we value and believe and love and weave those things together.</p>
<p>I work for communities now, not organizations. Thay&#8217;re making me sassier by the day. <img src='http://www.joegerstandt.com/cms/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Karin</title>
		<link>http://www.joegerstandt.com/2012/06/i-am-over-the-business-case-conversation/#comment-3278</link>
		<dc:creator>Karin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank-you. So very well said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank-you. So very well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hyland</title>
		<link>http://www.joegerstandt.com/2012/06/i-am-over-the-business-case-conversation/#comment-3275</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hyland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brilliant post, Joe. If there is one thing I like about it, it is definitely the tone. Forceful, unapologetic, and telling those who AREN&#039;T onboard with this that they&#039;re lacking severely.

So much about D &amp; I should be common sense these days - as you&#039;ve rightfully pointed out - and yet even people in the HR field ignore it like a fly on the wall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant post, Joe. If there is one thing I like about it, it is definitely the tone. Forceful, unapologetic, and telling those who AREN&#8217;T onboard with this that they&#8217;re lacking severely.</p>
<p>So much about D &amp; I should be common sense these days &#8211; as you&#8217;ve rightfully pointed out &#8211; and yet even people in the HR field ignore it like a fly on the wall.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin McCall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin McCall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[here here!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here here!</p>
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		<title>By: broc.edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>broc.edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Most organizations are in the process of dying, they just can’t see it because they generated a profit yesterday.&quot; Yes, yes, yes. Thank you! Best summary of business reality I&#039;ve ever seen. How many companies are currently the equivalent of the middle age guy who&#039;s life peaked in high school, stumbling along, blinded by past glories?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Most organizations are in the process of dying, they just can’t see it because they generated a profit yesterday.&#8221; Yes, yes, yes. Thank you! Best summary of business reality I&#8217;ve ever seen. How many companies are currently the equivalent of the middle age guy who&#8217;s life peaked in high school, stumbling along, blinded by past glories?</p>
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